- Your name (first and last)
- A current draft of your thesis statement
- Supporting points— give your peers an idea of what evidence you plan to use from the literature. The more specific you can be, the more it will help your peers tailor their feedback to you.
- Questions: Create a minimum of 3 questions you have regarding your thesis statement draft, choice of texts for analysis, supporting points, or other element(s) of the text/topic you have chosen.
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Alyson Behnke
3/13/2013 12:48:12 am
Alyson Behnke
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Alli marki stew
3/14/2013 12:43:41 am
You could use the major points of corruption within society/government, and the death within each novel/play. The main point of corruption could potentially be overshadowed by the idea of death. The corruption in both is relatable so the comparison would be easy for anaylzation. I think you could somehow add in how they both lost their ladies (ophelia and Mildred) and tie it in with corruption? Idk. This will be easier to talk about in a group discussion.
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Megan Warner
3/13/2013 12:53:32 am
Thesis:
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Alli Marki Stewy
3/14/2013 12:57:12 am
For a supporting point, you could add that becuase of the corruption in each society innocent people get killed, (Ophelia, Her father) and (the random guy walking posed as Guy Montag). Under the Value of children you could add that in Huckleberry fin The dad was a drunk and Huck didn't really matter to him. For a supporting point you could add the Sameness/Mindwash of society. In each novel the masses agree with what is wrong (no books and Slavery) making change hard for corruption. As far as sophisticated vocab, adjectives and adverbs could be used better you could always use Synonyms.com(;. Add a comma in the first sentence after Ray Bradbury's Farenheight 451, becuase it creates a fragment.
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Im ebarrased
3/14/2013 01:03:52 am
yeah yeah i know i messed up
Embarrassed
3/14/2013 01:04:53 am
:)
Megan
3/14/2013 01:06:32 am
I'm definitely gonna use the brainwash point I think that I can incorporate that really well into my paper. I really like the website suggestion too!!!! I'll definitely add that comma in.
Alli Waters
3/13/2013 12:57:59 am
Hamlet and Guy Montag
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Megan, Amanda, Alyson
3/14/2013 12:45:25 am
You could possibly add the titles and authors to the into paragraph to add length and clarity.
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Marki Wilber
3/13/2013 12:58:51 am
Thesis:
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Amanda Strader, Megan Warner, Allison Behnke
3/14/2013 12:52:38 am
1) there are many parallels between the characters Huck and Guy Montag struggling with their own personal morals and what society believes is right.
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Marki Wilber
3/14/2013 01:07:20 am
That thesis helped turn a fact into an arguement. I may struggle with some supporting points but the ones you gave will help me out!
Stewie
3/13/2013 12:59:17 am
Hamlet and Guy Montag both find themselves having to go against the grain to right the wrong in each of their respective societies.
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Alyson, Megan, Amanda
3/14/2013 01:00:47 am
You should make your thesis aimed towards their strong character and will instead of just the society's issues,
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Cassidy Lahr
3/13/2013 12:59:34 am
Cassidy Lahr
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Mikayla Raney, Amanda Clarke, Cammy Grove, Hannah Alger
3/14/2013 12:51:25 am
@Cassidy Lahr
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Cameron Spitzfaden
3/14/2013 08:24:09 am
When I read your thesis, I wonder if it was *because* Guy and Siddhartha overcame their conflicts that they found peace or enlightenment. You could state that in your thesis, so you have more to work with. For example:
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Amanda Clarke
3/13/2013 01:05:28 am
Amanda Clarke
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Lahr, Templin, Ashley, Spitzfaden
3/14/2013 12:47:06 am
1. Both seem to actually be saying the same message: live in the present. In Siddhartha, Siddhartha learns that time does not exist. What this means, in our interpretation, is to focus on the present, because the future is not set.
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Nicole Templin
3/13/2013 01:06:57 am
Nicole Templin
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Camy Grove, Amanda Clarke, Mikayla Raney, Hannah Alger
3/14/2013 01:05:27 am
Thesis: If you change your wording you could say that their behavior supports the idea of the Oedipus complex instead of saying the complex influences them.
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Cameron Spitzfaden
3/14/2013 08:02:34 am
In your thesis, consider further discussing the results of the Oedipus complex. For example, In both books, the main character accepts their mom’s faults, while becoming enraged at the slightest problem with the male. You touched on this when you mentioned that Hamlet's mother married Hamlet's uncle, but Hamlet was only
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Cameron Spitzfaden
3/13/2013 01:08:10 am
Long Thesis:
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Amanda Clarke
3/14/2013 01:23:00 am
@ Cameron Spitzfaden
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Rachael Weseman
3/13/2013 02:08:25 am
Thesis (rough, rough draft): Christopher Booker argued that there are only 7 basic plots in all of literature; in Odyssey, Beowulf, and Siddhartha the protagonist experiences a journey. Whether it be physical, heroic, or spiritual, all journeys end with a realization of contentment.
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Jayde, Katie, Savhanna
3/14/2013 01:01:14 am
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Heather
3/13/2013 06:31:38 am
Heather
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Jayde, Katie, Savhanna
3/14/2013 12:58:45 am
-intro is very good
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Heather
3/15/2013 01:20:10 am
I like these ideas! One of my weak points in writing is elaborating on the points Im trying to prove. I could talk about how Siddartha has to break his (wall) comfort level to leave the religion and family he was born into. Then i could mention how Dante must break his fear of pain and suffering whilst traveling hell. I could mention how rock bottom is a new awakening for some.. choose different direction. Dante is in hell, it'll be hard finding his way out but he is forced to go a different route, change his perspective and attain bravery... Thanks for the ideas guys:)
Savhanna Moore
3/13/2013 07:19:45 am
Savhanna Moore
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Heather
3/14/2013 01:08:18 am
I like your thoughts and supporting points dealing with your thesis. Your saying that these foil characters are equally relevant as the protagonist because they play assistance in conveying the message to the reader. You could compare and contrast how Govinda and Virgil help in certain situations.
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heather
3/14/2013 01:16:38 am
.. plus rachael and salena
Savhanna Moore
3/14/2013 12:23:48 pm
That's a really good idea! :D
Jayde Glenn
3/13/2013 08:31:12 am
Jayde glenn
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Rachael Weseman
3/14/2013 01:12:23 am
I definitely agree that you should change bad to something more sophisticated. I strongly agree that you should relate everything to religion seeing as the books both focus strongly on religion. Here's an idea of a reworked thesis: It is impossible to break from the harmful cycle of making the same mistakes and blindly following others without recognizing and learning from past mistakes. I like the idea of comparing and contrasting Siddhartha and Dante (both experience Enlightenment in very different ways). Look at the cycles they both go through, perhaps? Siddhartha: Brahmin, Shamana, Merchant, Ferryman, Enlightened. Also, look at their isolation from others and how that helps them become introspective and Enlightened.
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Katelyn Delecki
3/13/2013 11:20:40 am
Thesis Draft: Hamlet and Beowulf are parallel characters.
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Rachel heather and Salena
3/14/2013 01:13:52 am
To make your thesis stronger you can compare how they are such strong noble characters. The both go through hard times, Beowulf dealing with grendels mother and hamlet Dealing his step father. Expand on how they are similar and maybe but in thre how different they are because there are many differences betwee the two. Beowulf if fighting crazy outrageous demons and hamlets only focused on family things. You could talk about the love in the pieces, how Beowulf didn't really have love, he was more concentrated on being a hero. While hamlet was Concerned about Ophelia. You could also comment on the sanity in both books, we're hamlet and beowulf different or the same when it came to sanity?
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Katie
3/14/2013 01:19:37 am
I appreciate the feed back, the biggest concern I have with your feedback is mentioning their differences, because my paper is going to be about their parallelity, so adding differences may confuse the reader.
Mikayla Raney
3/13/2013 12:25:11 pm
Mikayla Raney
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Lahr, Templin, Ashley, Spitzfaden
3/14/2013 01:08:37 am
1. Something like this: Time is the ultimate antagonist in Virginia Woolf’s To the Lighthouse and Hermann Hesse’s Siddhartha, but once this seemingly villainous force has been overcome, the novels’ characters become content within its confines.
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Amanda Strader
3/13/2013 09:47:02 pm
Thesis: In Siddhartha and Inferno corruption effects more than just the surface.
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Alli Marki Stewey
3/14/2013 01:00:31 am
In your thesis, add more to what the corruption directly effects. Your supporting points add what the points add to the argument with examples. Make your thesis more clear, and add in some details and what exactly corruption does in each novel. I think the two novels will be easy to analysis becuase they both have the same struggles and themes (religion, greed, suffering). Just add more to the thesis and get some examples under each supporting point!
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Camy Grove
3/13/2013 09:48:50 pm
Camy Grove
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Lahr, Templin, Ashley, Spitzfaden
3/14/2013 01:27:14 am
1. You could talk about how Hamlet is taking revenge against a personal problem, whereas Guy Montag is facing a societal problem. Also, another great book for comparison would be Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, because Huck’s struggle against the societal norm of racism, which he knows is wrong, parallels Montag’s struggle against book censorship.
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Skyler Ashley
3/14/2013 12:35:59 am
Intro/Thesis:
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Skyler Ashley
3/14/2013 01:27:38 am
@Skyler Ashley
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Salena brown
3/14/2013 12:44:03 am
Hamlet and Fahrenheit 451
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Jayde, Katie, Savhanna
3/14/2013 12:52:14 am
-Hamlet commit treason, and Montag was keeping books
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Hannah Alger
3/14/2013 10:18:30 pm
Hannah Alger
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Lahr, Ashley, Spitzfaden
3/15/2013 01:03:15 am
1. In Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, you could talk about the scene in the beginning, when all the boys are palavering about murdering and stealing. Huck feels uncomfortable then, too. Also, when Hamlet sees the gravediggers treating dead bodies so casually, he wonders whether life is really worthless, or whether the gravediggers are being disrespectful. This is related to Hamlet’s idea that everyone is just worm food when they die.
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Gabrielle Hosey
3/21/2013 11:46:32 pm
Gabrielle Hosey
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